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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:49 pm

I have a b&z booster that is hard wired and want to take it apart to find the problem of it not working. I've checked and it's not the batteries, but most likely a broken wire.
I've taken all the fittings off and the 2 screws in the battery compartment, but I'm having difficulty taking the two plastic casings apart. Does anyone know how to do this as it seems to be locked into something and won't budge?
Thanks, Uncle Bob
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Post  Guest on Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:59 pm

UNCLE BOB wrote:I have a b&z booster that is hard wired and want to take it apart to find the problem of it not working. I've checked and it's not the batteries, but most likely a broken wire.
I've taken all the fittings off and the 2 screws in the battery compartment, but I'm having difficulty taking the two plastic casings apart. Does anyone know how to do this as it seems to be locked into something and won't budge?
Thanks, Uncle Bob

G'day UB,

You should get in touch with JP as he is the maker/supplier of the B&Z booster.

Cheers.

Mike.

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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:12 pm

I did but all I get is send it in, twice.
I want to try and fix it myself.
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Post  HOBO'S Gold on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:16 pm

I had the same problem had to break it apart and then glue it back together, the fault was in the lead so replaced it with a longer lead, problem fixed, no problems anymore been working for years now T06
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:22 pm

HOBO'S Gold wrote:I had the same problem had to break it apart and then glue it back together, the fault was in the lead so replaced it with a longer lead, problem fixed, no problems anymore been working for years now T06
Hey hobo,
So it broke apart? What stopped it from unclicking that it broke?
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Post  HOBO'S Gold on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:34 pm

UNCLE BOB wrote:
HOBO'S Gold wrote:I had the same problem had to break it apart and then glue it back together, the fault was in the lead so replaced it with a longer lead, problem fixed, no problems anymore been working for years now T06
Hey hobo,
So it broke apart?   What stopped it from unclicking that it broke?
Just looked at mine you have to unscrew the jacks as well, it should come apart.  Rolling Eyes
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:57 pm

The jacks have been unscrewed. The top part of the booster seems to be locked into something. I tried to pry it with a screwdriver and that doesn't work.
Maybe, I'll have to just brake it open like you did your one and use glue.
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Post  Guest on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:23 pm

Go down to the back shed and grab your big hammer and give it a good whack T05

Just joking..  lol! lol!

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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:55 pm

Jen58 wrote:Go down to the back shed and grab your big hammer and give it a good whack T05

Just joking..  lol! lol!
Now,now Jen.
That's not the way to fix things.......... V07
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Post  Guest on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:03 pm

Hobo's was just having a look. 
He said you have to take the volume control knob off. 
You will see a nut which you have to remove.
So
Switch, jacks and volume control, has nuts to be removed. 

Then he said if it doesn't come apart.. plucket!! Laughing

Ahh so many nuts Laughing

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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:13 pm

Yes Jen,
All those nuts are loose....... LOL
The darn plastic  just won't come undone.
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Post  davsgold on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:23 pm

Take the side stickers off or just split them along the center seam with a Stanley knife. Very Happy
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:31 pm

davsgold wrote:Take the side stickers off or just split them along the center seam with a Stanley knife. Very Happy

Aaah, good one Dave.
Maybe that's the magic touch I need V07
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Post  Guest on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:32 pm

davsgold wrote:Take the side stickers off or just split them along the center seam with a Stanley knife. Very Happy
Thats what we were going to tell uncle bob next..
But thought... nah.. he would have thought of that.. and done it..

You did?
 Didn't you uncle bob???

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Post  davsgold on Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:46 pm

Then carefully unsolder the 2 wires and use a multi meter and check for continuity of the cable wires at least this will give you an idea if it is a broken wire in the cable, which is mostly likely the cause, the other one to check is a broken connection in the actual plug jack, I know these used to cause trouble in the earlier ones, if it is just buy a good quality mono jack and solder it on.

Other wise if it is the wire/cable get some good quality twin core from Jaycar and resolder it on carefully, good luck with it all. Very Happy

cheers dave
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:17 pm

Ok, thanks Dave.
I'll give it a go.
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Post  pilbara snapper on Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:23 pm

Bob, Dave is correct,9 times out of 10 it will be the wire coming off at the male plug, I've had this happen on my booster three times, make sure that the cable has No tension on it when you are detecting and digging targets and that will stop the problem
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Post  Jonathan Porter on Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:20 am

UNCLE BOB wrote:I have a b&z booster that is hard wired and want to take it apart to find the problem of it not working. I've checked and it's not the batteries, but most likely a broken wire.
I've taken all the fittings off and the 2 screws in the battery compartment, but I'm having difficulty taking the two plastic casings apart. Does anyone know how to do this as it seems to be locked into something and won't budge?
Thanks, Uncle Bob

If you've removed all the fittings and the two screws in the battery compartment the booster should just come apart. I do not glue them together. I have not made boosters with hard wired cables for a long time now for this very reason, the cable gets jerked or pulled and the internal wires fail requiring the booster to be returned for repair or in this case an attempt being made to try and repair yourself. I do modify the older boosters to the new specs if required.

I do not recommend people try to repair themselves unless they have reasonable soldering skills. Usually I repair first time for free if required depending on the condition and age of the booster etc. converting costs around $50 plus postage.

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Post  UNCLE BOB on Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:06 am

Hi JP,
I've taken off all that you mentioned and as you said, it should just come apart but it just won't budge.
I'll just do what HOBO'S Gold mentioned and since I have my own soldering iron, I'll give it a go myself.
All is good.
Thanks for your concerns in regards to the booster.
UB
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:38 pm

I've taken the booster apart and I cannot see any loose wire, so maybe it might be the 6.5mm plug as it has got a little green on it.
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Post  davsgold on Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:48 pm

UNCLE BOB wrote:I've taken the booster apart and I cannot see any loose wire,  so maybe it might be the 6.5mm plug as it has got a little green on it.

G'day UNCLE BOB

Mate you won't see a "loose wire" they break internal somewhere along the thick black coax usually where they come out of the booster box or down near the jack plug.

The only way to tell if there is a break is to remove the coax from the booster, and test each of the wires for continuity with a multi meter or just replace the coax and or the 6.5mm jack.

cheers dave

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Post  UNCLE BOB on Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:37 pm

Ok Dave.

I'll do that.
Thanks, UB
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Post  UNCLE BOB on Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:45 pm

I have found the problem and it was the cable itself, as a friend has replaced a few of these flimsy cables. He said it's just weak cable that was used in the first place.
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Post  Jonathan Porter on Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:23 am

UNCLE BOB wrote:I have found the problem and it was the cable itself, as a friend has replaced a few of these flimsy cables. He said it's  just weak cable that was used in the first place.

Like I said UNCLE BOB, I have not used hard wired cables on the B&Z for a number of years now for that very reason! The old B&Z cable was a hi-fidelity audio cable that maintained extremely good quality audio, however the shielding wires are very fine so unless the booster is mounted where the cable doesn't get stressed they will gradually degrade over time. The cabling used on mono coils is very similar BTW.

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