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Post  Harb on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:23 pm

Not a Gold related post, or even a Detecting one at all, because I don't relic hunt........

I am considering doing a Documentary on the old gun and military emplacements around Australia........

Prospectors being mostly well traveled, have you seen any in your travels?

The more deserted the better, but even maintained ones like Sydney Middle point etc are ok I guess......I will add them to the list and pick the best of them for series one, if I go ahead.
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Post  cruiser1 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:55 pm

Hi Harb.We have a few on the coast near where I am.Garden Island which is now under the control of the navy have several which are on the west and southern side of the island.Because of erosion some are now sadly starting to collapse onto the beach.I am led to believe that there were numerous tunnels connecting them all together and at one stage a start was made to dig them out.
Point Peron which is on the coast directly opposite Garden Island also has some gun enplacements.These were all built during World War 11 when there was a threat of the Japanese invading our coast.
These area`s are near Rockingham which is a few k`s south of Perth.I hope this information may be of some help to your research.

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Post  rockhunter62 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:20 pm

Harb,

Jezzine Barracks at Townsville has a good one and there are a few out at Many Peaks at the north end of Palleranda.

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Post  au-fever on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:26 pm

Harb wrote:Not a Gold related post, or even a Detecting one at all, because I don't relic hunt........

I am considering doing a Documentary on the old gun and military emplacements around Australia........

Prospectors being mostly well traveled, have you seen any in your travels?

The more deserted the better, but even maintained ones like Sydney Middle point etc are ok I guess......I will add them to the list and pick the best of them for series one, if I go ahead.


In Victoria there are some at Portsea, and I think Queenscliff as well, I was posted to Portsea on staff in the late eighties when it was the officer cadet school, it closed down and moved to Canberra, there were quite a few gun emplacements there to protect Port Phillip Bay and also out to sea, also on the sea side was where Holts Hole was where the prime minister Harold Holt disappeared, often had to report live artillery rounds appearing on the sandy beach at the base of one of the bunkers for the demolition engineers to come and blow them up.

In WA there are gun emplacements at Point Peron, Garden Island?, Fremantle, and I think Rottnest as well, we often messed about in the bunkers as kids at Point Peron in the 70's, collected lots of coins and live 303 cartridges and used to throw them in the fire and run, not much going on in an eleven year old boys head I guess, and also there were gun emplacements in Kwinana, the base for the radio mast is still there and also ammunition bunkers, they used to fire from there down the coast on to Warnbro sound.

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Post  Digginerup on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:46 pm

rockhunter62 wrote:Harb,

Jezzine Barracks at Townsville has a good one and there are a few out at Many Peaks at the north end of Palleranda.

Cheers

Doug

Too true Doug, there are a few more around town I believe and a couple of beauty's on magnetic Island, there was a Lot of military in this town in the war years, still is really, though we do have a couple of good military history areas and a good museum unfortunately the local council appears to not care much about most of the military history here, much remains if you look for it but much has been destroyed, I recall as a kid playing in some old forts in Albany WA , in those days in the 70s they were accessible to the public, basically in ruin I guess, I suspect they are either gone, locked up from all or $25 a head now to take a peek Rolling Eyes, I suppose the country is dotted with military stuff if you really looked.

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Post  the speciman on Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:57 pm

agh yes cruiser 1 I grew up in rockingham /Kwinana from 1962 - 1986 .
many a time us kids walked across the sand bank to penguin island.
also there are concrete dome structures on the road south of the Kwinana golf course.

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Post  cruiser1 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:09 pm

G`day speciman.Remember those concrete shelters well.Ol farmer kelly used to chase us down the hill to our push bikes.Good old Medina days.

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Post  AnnieL on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:54 pm

G'day Harb,
A few I know of are Fort Scratchly at Newcastle and there are some remnants of gun turrets on Mount Tomaree, Shoal Bay. On a trip to Eden NSW I saw some ruins on the cliffs in Ben Boyd National Park and there are some in scrub near Moruya Airport (used as an air base during the war) I've seen photos of but I didn't locate them.  The Moruya Historical Society/Museum in town may be able to help.

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Post  AnnieL on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:59 pm

Me again,
Link to a list of coastal batteries in WWII -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_defences_of_Australia_during_World_War_II
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Post  rockhunter62 on Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:43 am

Digginerup wrote:
rockhunter62 wrote:Harb,

Jezzine Barracks at Townsville has a good one and there are a few out at Many Peaks at the north end of Palleranda.

Cheers

Doug

Too true Doug, there are a few more around town I believe and a couple of beauty's on magnetic Island, there was a Lot of military in this town in the war years, still is really, though we do have a couple of good military history areas and a good museum unfortunately the local council appears to not care much about most of the military history here, much remains if you look for it but much has been destroyed, I recall as a kid playing in some old forts in Albany WA , in those days in the 70s they were accessible to the public, basically in ruin I guess, I suspect they are either gone, locked up from all or $25 a head now to take a peek Rolling Eyes, I suppose the country is dotted with military stuff if you really looked.

Wayne. cheers

Yeh Wayne,

I forgot about the old fort on maggy, remember climbing up there years ago.

Cheers

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:30 am

Harb wrote:Not a Gold related post, or even a Detecting one at all, because I don't relic hunt........

I am considering doing a Documentary on the old gun and military emplacements around Australia........

Prospectors being mostly well traveled, have you seen any in your travels?

The more deserted the better, but even maintained ones like Sydney Middle point etc are ok I guess......I will add them to the list and pick the best of them for series one, if I go ahead.

This is by far the most interesting WW 2 topic I've found on the net, but you Join this site below to see the 6 pictures of the "6 wheeler"
WW2 Spitfires in old mine shaft in Queensland Australia:
http://www.thunting.com/smf/underground_systems_shelters/ww2_spitfires_in_old_mine_shaft_in_queensland_australia-t34957.10.html

Extra articles that may be of interest..
Australia War: (scroll down that site, covers a lot, quite good)
http://www.ozatwar.com/

The defence of Darwin:
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-battles/ww2/darwin.htm

Fall of Singapore leads to tiny Victorian town hosting top secret WWII Catalina base:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-15/fall-of-singapore-leads-to-tiny-town-hosting-air-base/8268520

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Post  Wombat on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:51 am

au-fever wrote:
Harb wrote:Not a Gold related post, or even a Detecting one at all, because I don't relic hunt........

I am considering doing a Documentary on the old gun and military emplacements around Australia........

Prospectors being mostly well traveled, have you seen any in your travels?

The more deserted the better, but even maintained ones like Sydney Middle point etc are ok I guess......I will add them to the list and pick the best of them for series one, if I go ahead.


In Victoria there are some at Portsea, and I think Queenscliff as well, I was posted to Portsea on staff in the late eighties when it was the officer cadet school, it closed down and moved to Canberra, there were quite a few gun emplacements there to protect Port Phillip Bay and also out to sea, also on the sea side was where Holts Hole was where the prime minister Harold Holt disappeared, often had to report live artillery rounds appearing on the sandy beach at the base of one of the bunkers for the demolition engineers to come and blow them up.

In WA there are gun emplacements at Point Peron, Garden Island?, Fremantle, and I think Rottnest as well, we often messed about in the bunkers as kids at Point Peron in the 70's, collected lots of coins and live 303 cartridges and used to throw them in the fire and run, not much going on in an eleven year old boys head I guess, and also there were gun emplacements in Kwinana, the base for the radio mast is still there and also ammunition bunkers, they used to fire from there down the coast on to Warnbro sound.

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Just an up date on the history of the fort at Portsea. At the very beginning of WW 1 & 2 the very 1st shots ever fired, in both world wars, in anger at the enamy was fired from the fort at Portsea. They were fired at German ships that were trying to sneak out of Port Phillip Bay when war was declared a few hours earlier.  
There are also gunnery implacements at Point Lonsdale across from Portsea still on the heads of Port Phillip Bay as well. They are all around the Light House, just near the pier.
Also at Fremantle that you mentioned, my Dad was stationed their for a short time as a Artillery Battery Commander in WW2 protecting the harbor. He fired a few shots across the bows at an American Submarine Tender one night that was re-entering in to the harbor. They did not give any code signals as requested. Dad had some idea that it may have been the Yanks coming back in after escorting a Sub out, but did not want to take the chance as it could have also been the Japs trying to sneak into the harbor. After the first two shots, the Yanks were sending every code they could think of. Dad had ordered very gun all the way into the harbor loaded and ready to fire.
At Williamstown here in Vic they have a great fort called Fort Gellibrand. Built in the 1850's and was improved in the 1860's, days of the Crimean War. They had, what they called "disappearing Guns".
Also in Williamstown there was many gun emplacements built in WW2 around the town to protect the Naval Dock Yards. There was some at the site of the now Williamstown Tech School. The school was built 1 year before I went there in 1959 and for our PT training period time, they got us to try and break up the old bunkers with sledge hammers. As you would imagine the size of these thing, a hammer did not do much damage. The school then got contractors in and they blasted them up bit by bit.  
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Post  pablop on Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:34 pm

Harb, there are several associated with the Bairnsdale airport. Some have disappeared, but others are solid structures. I think that there is also one in a paddock near the western end of the Sale airport.

There are some excellent examples up Cape York, also associated with WW2 air-bases.
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Post  philip.j.thompson on Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:13 pm

Out of Marble bar their are remanents of a WW2 airforce base. and around Tenterfield and on the Clarence are Tank trap concrete stoppers remains, worth a look
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Post  Harb on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:36 pm

Thanks everyone........i am researching everything mentioned so far .......thanks again Wink
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Post  pablop on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:49 pm

I know where there are a couple of other WW2 air-force strips on a WA cattle station, no current gun emplacements that I am aware of, but historic records said that there were, and I plan to check them for relics later this year.
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