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Post  keeif12 on Wed May 31, 2017 8:40 am

Gday guys was thinking of getting myself a pair of walkie talkies when for when I'm out and about in the bush. Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with any. I have a budget of roughly $500. Basically after the best range especially in rough areas, hilly and gullies etc. Any info would be great.
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Post  Wombat on Wed May 31, 2017 8:52 am

I bought a couple of Uniden one's a couple of years ago from **** Smith (when they were still around.) I think they cost me about $125.00 for the pair. Make sure what ever you get that they will also take the normal, of the shelf type batteries that you can buy at any Supermarket. This way if your out and your battery pack that comes with the radio go's flat, you can then change over to normal batteries.
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Post  Vivace on Wed May 31, 2017 9:07 am

Last year we replaced 2 GME TX6000S with a GME TX6150TP 5 Watt Twin Pack. Stayed with GME because of the reliable service over many years, also their speakers seem to be of better quality. These new (much smaller) radios have performed as well as the previous models. The pack cost about $500. Cheers; Vivace

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Post  Kon61gold on Wed May 31, 2017 11:45 am

G'day Kieran

My view, I think a good quality hand held CB, should be a part of every "serious" detectorists arsenal, even more so if they intend on walking klms through scrub or remote forest, well away from their base camp. What some people don't realise, is that a good, powerful, reliable hand held CB, is just as important as a top notch, dedicated detector, when searching for gold. That and a reliable hand held GPS.
I generally have my son with me when prospecting. He tends to go in one direction, me another & cannot afford to be let down, by cheap communication devices.
Accidents when walking out bush, might never happen, but find yourself in trouble, a couple of klms away from your base camp/group, in thick forest scrub & then you can ask yourself why, I can't communicate through, In times when serious help is required.
Anyways, enough of my waffle, everyone's finances/mindset are different & each to their own. I/we, use a pair of 5 Watt, Lithium Ion, (car rechargeable), 80 channel "Icom IC 41W" hand held CB's, of which I found to be very reliable, rugged/dependable, to military spec & they haven't let us down so far (Ideal for the type of ground you intend on covering).

Cheers Kon. Q11
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Post  granite2 on Wed May 31, 2017 12:11 pm

We have had a pair of Uniden half watt UHF units for 18 years. They take AA batteries and we use rechargables all the time. Don't buy anything that uses AAA as they run flat very quickly.

Our pair cost about $120 when first bought but these radios are a lot cheaper now. Don't think that even a 5 watt unit will work much out of line of sight.

Ours will work very well over even 15km when line of sight but even a 5 watt unit will not work when there is a decent hill or thick scrub between the units.

By all means get the best you can afford but be aware of their limitations.

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Post  rockhunter62 on Wed May 31, 2017 12:23 pm

Just remember though folks, UHF handheld radios are the way to go when on foot. CB radios went out with record players and not everyone is stuck in the ice age. Very Happy

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Post  Kon61gold on Wed May 31, 2017 2:32 pm

You are right there Doug. My mistake. The Icoms are portable UHF transceivers, not CB's. Stuck in the Ice age? No Doug. More like the Stone Age. Q35

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Post  keeif12 on Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:59 pm

Thanks for all the info guys. I agree the more adventurous I am getting the more safety equipment I want. Have loaded up with a plb and sat nav but want to be able to contact buddies when out and about. Cheers guys

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Post  sandy2010 on Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:34 am

I purchased a pair of Garmin 650 Rhinos for $600......variable wattage,gps,silent messaging (text) if desired, and colour display screen showing the location of your mate and vice-versa.

Be lucky.
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Post  Nightjar on Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:37 am

sandy2010 wrote:I purchased a pair of Garmin 650 Rhinos for $600......variable wattage,gps,silent messaging (text) if desired, and colour display screen showing the location of your mate and vice-versa.

Be lucky.
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Was lucky enough to get onto this "Garmin Rino two for one" promotion with Johnny Appleseed, best purchase we have ever made. My partner can get lost in the bathroom. Shocked With these units I can see where she is at anytime when we're in the bush. We have a series of text messages stored "Got one" (when we find a nug.) "Smoko" (When it is time for a cuppa) etc etc

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Post  Kon61gold on Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:32 am

Got to agree with you there Pete. Just got off the net, checking up on the new Rhino 750 series & looks like the way to go concerning safety features. GPS/2 Way UHF all in one, including that of constantly knowing the position/location of other 750 GPS users near by, upon communicating with one another, via text or UHF.  Not cheap, but Garmin have been known for their ruggedness/reliability out on the field.
Cheers for the update Sandy/Nightjar

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Post  gef50 on Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:07 pm

Kon61gold wrote:You are right there Doug. My mistake. The Icoms are portable UHF transceivers, not CB's. Stuck in the Ice age?  No Doug. More like the Stone Age. Q35

Cheers Kon.  

They are non the less of CB frequencies ... ie CB UHF ...
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Post  Nightjar on Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:09 pm

For current & would be owners of the Garmin Rino 650.
We set up our pair at home, calibrated compasses etc & entered our preferred settings.
A 1000+ km’s trip to the goldfields.
When we tried using the “Go To” to catch up with one another I found that the pointer on my partners unit was 180° out. ie: the flat back of the pointer was pointing in the direction I was approaching. We lived with that for the trip knowing that I could locate wayward prospector with my unit.
Arriving home I contacted Johhny Appleseed and mentioned one of our new units was faulty. Without hesitation he arranged for a new unit to be express posted.
Low and behold it was my unit compass that about faced next trip.
The long and the short of this problem is: “user error”
Garmin guru advised me that if ever this problem arises, (not always but can happen) usually after travelling long distance since last compass calibration. Recalibrate the compass  at your destination and the problem will be solved.
Sure enough this has been to this day sound advice.
So to reiterate, if you are travelling long distances to your prospecting patch, “recalibrate” on arrival and this possible problem is solved.

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The Rhino sounds the ducks nuts Peter, but at $500 a pop................................................................. Crying or Very sad









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Post  Wassa56 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:32 pm

After reading this post on 2 way communication it would appear the Garmin Rhino is the way to go. Are they very robust, can they take a knock?

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Post  Nightjar on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:37 pm

Can vouch for the Garmin Rino 650, not up to scratch with the 750.
As mentioned they are top end price, but what is your life worth?
Just Googled there is a 755 model now, ($855.00) didn't read all the specs, happy with our 650's.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Garmin-Rino-755t-Handheld-GPS-Navigator-with-Built-in-2-Way-Radio-010-01958-10/311734504564

The 650's have held their price. Just lucky we got two for $600.00 during promotion.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Garmin-Rino-650-Handheld-GPS-With-GEN-GARMIN-WARRANTY/121977038060?epid=1633843968&hash=item1c6665e4ec:g:39gAAOSw1GlaYU3v


We go remote, so after the 3 fatalities couple of years back we purchased an EPIRB (Registered for both boat & prospecting)
This model is mounted in our vehicle.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GME-MT600G-EPIRB-with-GPS-406-MHz-10-year-Battery-Life-BRAND-NEW-GME-MT-600G/181621642165?epid=1343998336&hash=item2a497e53b5:g:Y8EAAOSwknJX15xo

You can purchase a model more suited to carrying with you.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GME-MT410G-PERSONAL-LOCATOR-EPIRB-WITH-GPS-TRACKING-406-MHZ-CAT-2-406MHZ-PLB-NEW/262150454812?epid=1912951009&hash=item3d09627e1c:g:DnIAAOSwUwtZ0xrk

It is only a matter of a very short time before PLB's will be compulsory.
Get in before the price hike.............................























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Post  Wassa56 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:45 pm

I already have one on my boat, can I use it on a car trip as well?
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Post  boobook on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:59 pm

Re iterate what Nightjar says re the Garmin Rino 650. Smile
If you arrange units to "talk" to each other, several can show the location and distance away of each individual unit.
Regarding compass re calibration it is essential that this be done each morning at the camp before leaving.
The overnight switch off/ recharge regime seems to throw the compass calibration off to the "four winds"
The radio has variable power output of 0.5-5w. Have never used it above the lowest setting and in locations such as Burtville scrub no problems communicating with camp at around 1.5km. It also shows direct distance with an arrow back to camp or by a "back track" feature.
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Post  Nightjar on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:22 pm

Can only relate WA law, if you venture 2km+ from the mainland you require a registered EPIRB. (PLB's can be carried as an extra but do NOT take the place of the required EPIRB)
The batteries in A Garmin EPIRB have a life span of 10 years, HOWEVER, you must re-register (online - free) every two years.
One EPIRB can be registered for both land and sea.
















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Post  goldtalkleonora on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:55 pm

5 watt GME's...never miss a beat. Avoid cheap brands...not worth it longer term.
Main thing to understand is that UHF's are not a reliable means of communications. Essential prospecting kit...but not reliable.
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Post  Tributer on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:12 pm

I recommend any of the top line GME or Uniden 5w handhelds. You need to have an extra battery for each unit, so factor in that cost. A 12 volt cigi lighter charger that the unit slids into on the car dash is handy for charging as you move from spot to spot. In my experience make sure you attach them well to yourself by lanyard and clip......radios have a habit of getting lost. A remote mic on a lead over your shoulder with the radio on your backpack is useful if using big coils.

EPIRBs are for marine use. A personal Locator Beacon (PLB) is a must. You register your unit and yourself online and can update the area you are in and emergency contact people/numbers online anytime with . PLB's are small (cigarette packet size) and it should live in your detecting backpack...not the car.

I think the EPIRB is OK for on land use but check on the Aust Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) site...where you register all distress beacons at. But I would invest in the the light weight/small PLB.
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Post  Vivace on Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:38 pm

Can recommend GME TX6155 5 watt Radios, as got these to replace earlier models which we had used since they had first come out around 1990. Last year when old GPSs died bought 2 Rhino 750 one of which keeps falling out of my pocket, not its fault, but it has weathered the treatment. We have, for years, carried the EPIRB from our boat in the 4WD and also carry PLBs in our pockets when out detecting. Hope this helps. Vivace.

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Post  Wassa56 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:01 pm

Thanks fellas for the heads up on this gear
Cheers
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