Firemen and their training with chemicals

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  UNCLE BOB on Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:20 pm

How many Firemen are there who have been training all their years not knowing of the chemicals they used to train with that have actually done more harm than good to the environment and our drinking water and the food we eat?
This chemical used was banned in the USA and the Australian government was made aware of it back in 1987................ Didn't care and kept everyone in the dark about it and kept using this chemical in the fire-fighters foam.......?????
Does anyone know more about this and why it went on for soooooo long?
avatar
UNCLE BOB
Contributor Plus
Contributor Plus

Number of posts : 1357
Registration date : 2010-10-20

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  adrian ss on Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:17 pm

avatar
adrian ss
Contributor Plus
Contributor Plus

Number of posts : 1392
Age : 71
Registration date : 2015-07-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  Redfin on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:00 pm

Four Corners dedicated en episode on the subject a while ago.
can view it here = http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/contamination/9032140
avatar
Redfin
Contributor Plus
Contributor Plus

Number of posts : 605
Registration date : 2013-02-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  Magilla on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:05 pm

I was a firefighter for 30 years, most of that time was spent at a station with a dedicated foam pumper.
Originally our tanks were filled with a protein foam, it was fully bio-degradable and actually made the grass grow where we used it.
I am not sure of the exact time frame but about the mid to late 70's we switched over to AFFF (aqueous film forming foam).
For firefighting it is far superior to the old protein foam and we were told it was completely safe so took no extra precautions when using it. At fires where it was used we would manage the runoff but more for the danger posed by the contaminants in the material that was burning than the foam itself.
Foam is mostly used on flammable liquid fires so gets very little use at most fire stations, foam pumpers are only placed in areas where large volumes of foam may be needed in an emergency, such as near an airport or refinery. All stations carry a small amount of foam concentrate, about 40lts, for use with portable foam equipment.
I have been completely covered in AFFF many times as have most firies, we conducted regular drills where we would have to wade through foam covered water up to our waist.
I am now retired and have never been contacted for any testing to see if I have raised levels of the chemicals in my system and I know of no other firies that have been approached either.
Why the dangers were kept a secret I have no idea but like most things in life it would have had something to do with money.

Magilla
New Poster
New Poster

Number of posts : 17
Registration date : 2015-05-23

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  Redfin on Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:48 pm

Like all workplace situations that require a payout or are suspicious three rules apply.
DENY
DELAY
DEATH
avatar
Redfin
Contributor Plus
Contributor Plus

Number of posts : 605
Registration date : 2013-02-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  rockhunter62 on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:03 pm

I think that we used to have family days at the RAAF bases and the firies would spray out a big area of foam so the kids could go and play in it. This was back in the 80's.

Cheers

Doug
avatar
rockhunter62
Good Contributor
Good Contributor

Number of posts : 138
Registration date : 2016-03-07

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  Magilla on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:13 pm

The RAAF would have been using the same AFFF as we had Doug.

Magilla
New Poster
New Poster

Number of posts : 17
Registration date : 2015-05-23

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  rockhunter62 on Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:51 am

Magilla wrote:The RAAF would have been using the same AFFF as we had Doug.

Yes that is correct Magilla. We had no idea about back then. Sad

Cheers

Doug
avatar
rockhunter62
Good Contributor
Good Contributor

Number of posts : 138
Registration date : 2016-03-07

Back to top Go down

Re: Firemen and their training with chemicals

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum