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Post  24kt on Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:30 am

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I'm sure this has been brought up many times the great treasure find of Lasseter's Reef is it a myth or a fallacy of a con artists in his prime at 17 years of age. One business man claims he has found " Lasseter's Reef" http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=266488 Your thoughts?

Like all prospectors I'm sure it is safe to say, there are HUGE GOLD deposits of virgin grounds that have not yet been touch till today all over Australia's beautiful landscape.

Watching some of the Youtube film clips people post up of the WA and NT regions of their great finds after hours and hours and days and days and years of prospecting and unearthing that beautiful gold coloured nuggets some just floating and exposed on the surface sunbaking for some prospector to find.

Still even today in 2010 some nearly one hundred years later and we all ponder on the thought that this " Lasseter's Reef " may exist

Just some literature I found on the topic " Lasseter's Reef " and seems there are many old books and newspaper articles on the topic written over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasseter's_Reef

http://www.australiantraveller.com/component/content/article/3962

http://www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/apr99/default.htm

http://www.lasseteria.com/CYCLOPEDIA/120.htm

http://www.gsa.org.au/pdfdocuments/Divs_SGs_Newsletters/WAG_dec07-jan_2008.pdf

http://www.gold-net.com.au/lasseter1.html

http://www.lasseteria.com/CYCLOPEDIA/161.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasseter's_Reef

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=266488

http://www.nma.gov.au/audio/transcripts/basedow/NMA_Kaus_20090702.html

http://simplyaustralia.net/article-gs-dreaming.html

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/telegraph/content/2010/s2874777.htm

http://www.egold.net.au/biogs/EG00318b.htm

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/43808/Wheres_Lasseters_Reef.aspx

I wonder if the Australian government and Minelab would be interested in sponsoring my exploration to find " Lasseter's Reef " LOL

Believe it or not is the question?








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Post  Jigalong on Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:54 pm

I have heard some prospectors around the campfire suggest that it was Telfer, which, when discovered, was a very rich surface reef (I think).
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Post  fastgold on Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:54 pm

POOHIE,, Telfer is a red herring but there is a case for arltunga,winneckie with abit of collusion but highly unlikely.Remember the first time lassetter found it he arrived in alice springs with jack s--- restocked his supplies and was then found in the rawlinsons later with samples by harding a surveyor.Given that stuart (alice springs) was nothing but a service town for arltunga and name wasnt changed till the rail line came it can only be concluded that he found a vein in the region while recuperating or a new prospect between there and the rawlinsons.This is fact as the assays exist of between 2-3 oz/ton at by memory laverton.This also corresponds with a mine at garden station which was worked up till recent years by johnny vitoski (the mad russian) who barrell rolled his jag with his mate and found stuck in the top of a tree while returning back to the mine.Remember arltunga was a 30 oz/ton plus region so the garden station mine approx 1/2 way fits,but unlikely as harding and lassetter formed a partnership and returned a few years later to which again there were assays which can be proven. What everybody has to remember is that they did try to set up company to mine but nobody wanted to know about it because of the logistics and that coolgardie kalgoolie was 10 times richer at the time.The suss part is how do two very able people in terms of navigating stuff up the longtitude when they returned.I find it hard to believe that they took only one time piece when they each owned one.They said it lost time and the time would have put them in the indian ocean. Aletter was sent to lassetters wife which detailed find so it can be assumed that the latitude and general surroundings are known but never been released by the family. As for the third time or so called expedition which was carried out nearly 30 years latter it can only be put as a major cock-up and it is pretty obvious that there was a lot of self interest in protecting their so called honour and dignity and discrediting lassetter.

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Post  Vb4meta on Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:06 pm

The shifting sands in the desert make it hard to correctly identify any original landmarkers, but theres reports of ppl finding gold along the NT/SA border all the time, so theres plenty out there still to be found.

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Post  Guest on Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:01 am

Just PM me 24k and I'll send you Lassetter's map that he left my great grandfather. Razz Razz Razz

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Post  Alf on Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:23 pm

Lasseters reef is a bit like that add on telly, the one with the bloke hanging through the ceiling, and his missus sitting on the couch yells back "Still Looking".

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Post  Delicate sound of thunder on Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:32 pm

Telfer, check out the history of Telfer and the disorinenteted south westerly travel of Lassiter.

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Post  Jigalong on Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:10 am

"POOHIE,, Telfer is a red herring but there is a case for arltunga,winneckie with abit of collusion but highly unlikely.Remember the first time lassetter found it he arrived in alice springs with jack s--- restocked his supplies and was then found in the rawlinsons later with samples by harding a surveyor.Given that stuart (alice springs) was nothing but a service town for arltunga and name wasnt changed till the rail line came it can only be concluded that he found a vein in the region while recuperating or a new prospect between there and the rawlinsons.This is fact as the assays exist of between 2-3 oz/ton at by memory laverton" - Fastgold

Fact Fastgold ? In the Lasseter story there are very few "facts" that seem to be able handle close examination. Your quoting what Harding did as a fact, is a typical example. Apparently Harding was a figment of Lasseter's imagination, as historians never found any trace of such a person. That is what I read in some of the extensive list of Lasseter sites given to us by 24kt.


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Post  kon61 on Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:27 am



G'day Gents.

Whether or not the actual reef existed/exists,is still yet to be proven,and several syndicate companies have
had attempts in locating the so called Lassetters 3/4 mile,7oz/ton reef, but to no avail.Did not Lassetter himself state that on his final attempt at locating the reef,hed found it,staked it with a peg and said in his diary that he feared the aboriginal owners of the land in that area would most likely remove the stake,so that the reef would remain unknown. As far as we know the reef might have already been found,and already worked under a different name.One things for certain though,as Lassetter stated in his diary "What good is a reef worth millions,id trade it all for a loaf of bread". Well he ended up trading more than that.

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Post  24kt on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:25 pm

Goldnomad wrote:Just PM me 24k and I'll send you Lassetter's map that he left my great grandfather. Razz Razz Razz

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Hi Goldnomad, LOL Laughing Goldnomad you pulling my leg Laughing FREE OF CHARGE or your after a slice of the cake Laughing

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Post  Nightjar on Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:35 pm

Here is a photo story put together after our unsuccessful search for Lasseter's Reef in July 2005, we had to turn back short of our destination due to the heaviest rain since before Lasseter perished.

http://detectorcommunity.ning.com/video/central-australia-trip-july2
Posts on the old MSN site covered preparation for this trip.

Robert Ross has done more research than anyone on Harold Lasseter.
http://www.lasseteria.com/LASSETERIA.htm

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:25 pm

Cake's all you'll ever get from that idea 24k

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Post  garretace150 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:57 am

Hi nightjar

It must have been very dissapointing beings so close to one of the land marks that lasseter remembered. Good photo's and its a very interesting story! I wouldnt mind going out and having a look. only thing is if someone did find it and it was on sacred land it would be almost imposible to detect, peg or do anything with it! Is there any intentions of going out again in the near future nightjar?

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Post  Nightjar on Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:28 am

Hi Garretace,
If you are contemplating heading out there start your preparations 12 months ahead.
To gain permission to enter aboriginal land back in 2005 took about 3 months, no idea if the ground rules have changed.
The Aboriginal Land Council Elders only meet every month or so and "permission to enter" is their final decision.
***Hint*** Do not mention cameras!
Without the Elders permission you can only pass through the region and camp within metres of a gazzetted public roadway.
Very unlikely we will ever attempt the trip again.
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Post  garretace150 on Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:33 am

Hi nightjar

Yeah it will be a planned for quite a while. doing the research of the area to look in is taking long enough! Did you come across any problems when you apllied for the permit. As a kid i remember bits and peices of traveling to ularu and alice springs with the family. its a amazing area of country thats for sure! I know the old man is keen to do the drive again and have a look at the sights once more!

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Post  TheH0ward on Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:58 am

I done a road trip just this year to central oz. Went as far as Harts Range north of Alice digging for garnets. Was a great place! We plan another trip north next year. I soooo fell in love with the outback!

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Post  Nightjar on Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:17 pm

Hi Garrettace,
Time stands still out there mate, no one is in a hurry, apart from mentioning a no/no, camera, the only problems were frustration waiting for a reply.
If you want to take photos when travelling away from gazzetted roads you have to hire an aboriginal guide, so you don't inadvertantly photograph forbidden sites. Photos take the spirits away.

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Post  MS on Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:50 pm

Hi Nightjar
That trip you had, brought back memories of when I used to work out that way for the Government, very interesting county and very remote, been over 20 years since I was there and even back then we required permits to be on the lands, the fine back then for taking alcohol in was $2000 if you got caught, I wasn't detecting but did bring a pan and there were two waterholes that I panned of what I collected in some likely areas, no luck, not even a speck but did hear stories of the aboriginals picking up the odd nugget, we worked over to the corner country and went into WA and NT but only for short trips as our work was on the SA side in the communities.
Cameras were ok ,as were firearms but that stopped after a while and as access tightened up on those trips , then we had to stick to the tracks and not enter certain areas, so glad I had the opportunity to see and do what I did.
When you travel out that way you really appreciate the guts and determination those early explorers and prospectors had and to find their way around and get back in one piece without vehicles and backup is beyond me.
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Post  Nightjar on Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:33 pm

Hi MS,
Certainly spectacular country, when we sat on top of Swerin Mural Crescent it gave us an idea how vast our flat country is. If we could have got through the Pass we had the countless sandhills ahead, Mt Johnno in view and then a line to Mt Carnegie our destination was in between.
Very much doubt, but if Lasseter's Reef is out there we would have found it from the intensive research, all other expeditions were way off course.

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Dam I need to find a way to sell sand to the Arabics' LOL

Post  24kt on Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:14 am

Hi, Some amazing adventures some of you old timers have had in you lifetime, I'm sure there would be some interesting story( wealth of information to be told ) telling around a camp fire. I know I would be mesmerised cause I haven't stepped out of suburbia. I need my 5 star hotel/motels and a good shower after a days fossicking and a good home cooked roast dinner on the table. Not to mention a nice bed and pillow with fresh silky sheets Embarassed Embarassed Shocked Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil

It is amazing with today's technology and far superior means of transportation methods , just makes you wonder how far Lasseter actually travelled ??

I come across these readings in one of Lasseter documents Latitude and Longitude 15°37.983′N 32°31.983′E maybe he was way of target? a man always blames his tools !! LOL

Dam I need to find a way to sell sand to the Arabics' LOL

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